[EGOvoruhk]

So I'm building a new Windows 98 box just to play around with, and I'm looking for some resources about its limits, and I found this forum. Anyway, I need to pick up an LGA 775/Socket T chip, and I was just wondering if Windows 98 SE supported all processor speeds

Also, does it have support for HyperThreading or Celeron D?

Thanks in advance you guys

[awergh]

98se doesnt support but as far as i know there is now cpu speed limit
98se can see multiple cpus or cores it can only see 1 cpu

[galahs]

Nope.

Windows 9x does not support Hyperthreading or Multi Core/Processors.

However it may work on the system if you disable HT or Multiple processors in the bios.

[awergh]

im pretty sure i ran 98se on a computer which had ht enabled but you can disable it anyway

[YKWIA]

awergh, on Jun 5 2007, 12:01 AM, said:

im pretty sure i ran 98se on a computer which had ht enabled but you can disable it anyway

I ran a Windows ME system with HT enabled, No diffrence in speed.

[awergh]

i didnt mean speed difference because i doubt there is any, what i meant was that 98se didnt crash when i tried it on a computer with ht enabled

[Mijzelf]

That's right. W9x runs fine on a multiprocessor (multicore,hyperthreading) system. But it will only detect and use 1 processor.

[mutterer]

Have a look here > http://support.micro...kb/312108/en-us

There is a problem with NDIS with CPU speeds of 2.2gHz or faster. MS USED to publish a patch, which I downloaded and subsequently lost
(as my CPU is only 500 MHz it probably got dumped in the 6 monthly clearout) but MS now claim that there is no fix, probably they lost it as well.

[awergh]

that problem is for 98 fe and 95 not 98se, ive definatly run 98se on a p4 2.6ghz anyway

[EGOvoruhk]

awergh, on Jun 6 2007, 04:04 AM, said:

that problem is for 98 fe and 95 not 98se, ive definatly run 98se on a p4 2.6ghz anyway

Sweet, thanks. I'm actually picking up a P4 2.6GHz

My motherboard tops out at 2.8, but I can't find one for cheap. The 2.6 I found for around a hundred, and the 2.8s I found are around two hundred. Bah!

[Rjecina]

In my thinking many of answer which has come to this question has been wrong.

Speed of CPU problem on Windows 98 SE do not exist. I can say that looking my PC.

I having Core 2 Duo E 4300 with 1 GB RAM and everything (Windows 98 SE and all programs) is working without problems

[MDGx]

mutterer, on Jun 5 2007, 02:26 PM, said:

Have a look here > http://support.micro...kb/312108/en-us

There is a problem with NDIS with CPU speeds of 2.2gHz or faster. MS USED to publish a patch, which I downloaded and subsequently lost
(as my CPU is only 500 MHz it probably got dumped in the 6 monthly clearout) but MS now claim that there is no fix, probably they lost it as well.

This patch is available here:
http://www.mdgx.com/web.htm#W98

* Microsoft Windows 98 CPU > 2.1 GHz NDIS Error NDIS.VXD 4.10.2000 Fix:
http://support.micro....com/?id=312108
Direct download [213 KB, English]:
http://www.autourdupc.com/Logiciel/WIN98/S.../312108USA8.EXE

HTH [Hope This Helps]

[erpdude8]

awergh, on Jun 6 2007, 04:04 AM, said:

that problem is for 98 fe and 95 not 98se, ive definatly run 98se on a p4 2.6ghz anyway

not quite correct, awergh. The patch is for Win98 FE ONLY. There is NO Win95 patch. The Resolution section in MS article 312108 now sounds convoluted. I know there was a 98fe hotfix for it but NO 95 hotfix was available.
Win98 SE already supports 2.1 GHz & faster CPUs w/out the patch so the problem in MS article 312108 is already resolved in 98se

[awergh]

what i meant was that the error effect 95 and 98fe as it stated at the bottom of the article

[NothingMuchHereToSay]

Might this patch for Windows 98 still be on your website, MDGx?

[LoneCrusader]

I don't think he has it linked directly, but he has linked to a "newer" update that supersedes Q312108. If you want the original Q312108 HotFix for 98 FE, I can upload it somewhere for you. I'm very familiar with this particular problem. It has also now been solved for Windows 95. This is one of the things I was talking about in the other thread.

[NothingMuchHereToSay]

Ah, that's good to know.

But luckily that link he has up still works on my P4 2.93GHz rig!

[LoneCrusader]

If there are Windows 95 drivers for the hardware on that "rig" then you can run Windows 95 on it as well. That should give you something to play around with for a while.

See this thread.

[NothingMuchHereToSay]

To be honest, I don't see the point in using Win95 with over 2.1ghz, except just to experiment. It unfortunately can't game so unless there's like some way to get Steam running on Win95, there'd be no point. Besides, it works fine on this 1.1GHz Tualatin P3 rig w/512 RAM.

[LoneCrusader]

NothingMuchHereToSay, on 08 July 2011 - 11:30 AM, said:

To be honest, I don't see the point in using Win95 with over 2.1ghz, except just to experiment. It unfortunately can't game so unless there's like some way to get Steam running on Win95, there'd be no point. Besides, it works fine on this 1.1GHz Tualatin P3 rig w/512 RAM.

I'm missing something here. You wanted an obsolete HotFix for Windows 98 First Edition.. but you seem to be using Windows 98 Second Edition. Now the fix you probably downloaded DOES have updates for both, but was not required for SE in relation to CPU speed.

Your reason for not being interested in the Windows 95 fix is that Steam does not run on 95. Last time I checked, it does not run on 98FE or 98SE either, so what's the difference? In one thread you complain that 95 "doesn't get much love" and then in another thread, when you are introduced to an important fix for it, you disregard it.

The POINT is to do something that Microsoft says can't be done. Now if you're not interested, that's fine. But don't be so ready to complain about not having this or that fixed when you don't take advantage of what has already been done.