[Nikolas91]

Can someone tell me how to make my win 98 to support 32-bit icos , dont tell me : "use revolutios pack" or something like that , I want to know how to do it by my self.

[awergh]

since you dont want to use just revolutions pack you will need to contact Tihiy who made the 32bit icon patch for 98se and 2k, since he would be the person who would know if it can be seperated from revolutions pack

[marxo]

32-bit patch:

http://rapidshare.co...657/32.rar.html

HTH [Hope This Helps]

[noguru]

TM0d, on Jun 9 2007, 02:38 PM, said:

32-bit patch:

http://rapidshare.co...657/32.rar.html

HTH [Hope This Helps]

Nice, but this contains user32.dll version 4.90.3001. Installing will "undo" the unofficial Q891711 user32.dll version 4.10.2233 fix right?

[marxo]

These files are part of RP so ask Tihiy about it. I think that it will undo the fix...

[icefireicefire]

Sorry for the stupid question: what is 32 bit? Is it an amount of colors?
If so, Windows configurator can enable it (search google)...

[awergh]

32bit is a curtan amount of colours about 1.6 million i think but it also has an alpha chanel which does the nice edges and transparency stuff. I cant see anything about 32bit icons in that program anything, it just tweaks the registry

[mufunyo]

icefireicefire, on Jun 10 2007, 06:03 PM, said:

Sorry for the stupid question: what is 32 bit? Is it an amount of colors?
If so, Windows configurator can enable it (search google)...

Red = 8 bit
Green = 8 bit
Blue = 8 bit
Total = 24 bit

2^24 = 16777216 = 16.7 million possible colours

Red = 8 bit
Green = 8 bit
Blue = 8 bit
Alpha = 8 bit
Total = 32 bit
Alpha means transparency channel

(2^24 = 16777216 = 16.7 million possible colours) + (2^8 = 256 possible shades of translucency where 0 is transparent and 255 is opaque)

So basically, with 32 bits you can have millions of colours in gradual variations of transparency. This opposed to indexed transparency where a colour can be either opaque or transparent, but nothing in between, causing jagged edges.

[MDGx]

Try this:

1. Install this Explorer fix:

* Unofficial Windows 98 SE 256 Colors Icons Explorer EXPLORER.EXE 4.72.3612.1700 Fix:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/EXPLOR98.TXT
Direct download [171 KB, English]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/EXPLOR98.EXE
Direct download [175 KB, Italian]:
http://www.mdgx.com/files/ITEXPL98.EXE
More info:
http://www.dr-hoiby....IconIn256Color/
This EXPLORER.EXE 4.72.3612.1700 installed also by Unofficial Windows 98 SE SP2:
http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
+ 98SE2ME:
http://www.mdgx.com/98-5.htm#KRM9S

Reboot.
2. Merge this REG file into your registry:

Quote

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_USERS\.Default\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"Shell Icon BPP"="32"

;

3. Log off and then back on.

More info:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windowsserve...f23d771033.mspx

HTH

[erpdude8]

MDGx, on Jun 14 2007, 10:35 AM, said:

2. Merge this REG file into your registry:

Quote

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_USERS\.Default\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics]
"Shell Icon BPP"="32"

;

Setting Shell Icon BPP to 32 may "discolor" or make the desktop icons look worse while making the tray icons look better with this setting on some video cards.

Better to set Shell Icon BPP to either 16 when using either 16bit High Color or 24bit True color mode.

btw - there is now a "256 Color TrayIcon" fix for NT4 w/out IE Shell update (created by TM0d), which Dr. Hoiby on his site NEVER covered NT4.
Get it here.

also I think I may have patched v4.72.3612.1700 of explorer.exe for NT4. so the 256 color trayicon fix for NT4 WITH shell update is in the works

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 29 June 2007 - 09:06 AM

[marxo]

Shell Icon BPP = 32 must be on in order for the update to work...

[erpdude8]

TM0d, on Jun 26 2007, 03:54 PM, said:

Shell Icon BPP = 32 must be on in order for the update to work...

but some video cards do NOT properly support Shell Icon BPP = 32, Tm0d, like the one I have; I can have good looking tray icons but will have ugly desktop icons using 32. Looks like I'll have to upgrade mine or set Shell Icon BPP = 16 as it worked fine at 16 when using 16 bit High Color mode [65536 colors].

Shell Icon BPP = 32 is okay when using 32bit Real Color mode [millions of colors], if your graphics card can actually handle it.

So after you change the Shell Icon BPP reg setting, you also MUST change the Color Depth from the Display control panel to a higher setting or a setting to match the Shell Icon BPP setting.

Shell Icon BPP = 16 < fine for using 16-bit High Color
SHell Icon BPP = 32 < great when using 32-bit Real Color

btw, Tm0d - patching version 4.72.3612.1700 of explorer.exe for nt4 was very simple. dont know why you thought it was tough. I just found the familar part in the file that needed to be edited and that's it.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 29 June 2007 - 09:19 AM

[marxo]

erpdude8, on Jun 29 2007, 05:06 PM, said:

btw, Tm0d - patching version 4.72.3612.1700 of explorer.exe for nt4 was very simple. dont know why you thought it was tough. I just found the familar part in the file that needed to be edited and that's it.

I forgot about patching it, but yesterday a friend from MSFN told me that it has a familiar part. If u've patched it post it (if u haven't done it earlier).

[erpdude8]

sure thing Tm0d.

I found out that Intel i810 (82810) and i815 (82815) graphics cards (and mobos with either of these graphics chipsets) only support up to 24bit true color mode and not 32bit Real color mode. these cards are incapable of properly handling the "ShellIcon BPP" reg setting of 32. This setting can produce great looking tray icons but make the desktop icons and quick launch bar icons look terrible, regardless whether I use 16bit high color or 24bit true color. If I set ShellIcon BPP to 16 AND set the Color Depth to 16bit color when using either of these chipsets, I can get colorful desktop icons and tray icons under my WinME computer. These Intel 810 and 815 series chipsets are barely crappy when it comes to color.

One computer game I searched from Google is "The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind" which really needs 32bit color mode and will not run under 16bit or 24bit color mode as noted at this Intel page:
http://www.intel.com...b/cs-003990.htm

At least the Intel 830 (82830M) and higher graphics chipsets can fully support 32bit color mode and can take full advantage of the "ShellIcon BPP" setting of 32.

[marxo]

I know about intel i810 i have on on my test PC... But i have a weird "bug"... When i install an OS on my VPC2007 and turn on Shell Icon BPP on 32 alpha blending works ...

[glocK_94]

TM0d, on Jul 4 2007, 05:48 PM, said:

I know about intel i810 i have on on my test PC... But i have a weird "bug"... When i install an OS on my VPC2007 and turn on Shell Icon BPP on 32 alpha blending works ...

Not really a bug but it proves how stupid this is... No hardware support means you can't have Morrowind or 32bits icons but it works through software support...
I mean how can you make a video card without 32bits colors support today when the old S3 Virge I had 10 years ago was dealing that fine?

And @ other people:
What's the problem with the tray? I mean, if you use Dr. Hoiby's explorer, you will get 256 colors icons whatever the "ShelliconBPP" is.

[marxo]

Which means that with a good driver there could be 32-bit palette on i810's...

[erpdude8]

marxo, on Jul 4 2007, 11:48 AM, said:

I know about intel i810 i have on on my test PC... But i have a weird "bug"... When i install an OS on my VPC2007 and turn on Shell Icon BPP on 32 alpha blending works ...

but are you using Win98se or WinME? the problem I was describing about ShellIcon BPP to 32 and making the trayicons look good and the desktop icons look worse apply to WinME. If you are using Win98 SE and installed the patched explorer.exe file under 98 SE, the problem should be completely fixed whether you're using 16bit, 24bit or 32bit color depths.

Dr. Hoiby in his explorer.exe patch page claims the problem is fixed in WinME/XP. He is half right. Running his 256ColorTrayTest.exe file under an i810 card in 24bit true color mode (IN WINME) and the tray icon test FAILED as the icon displayed only a few colors. After rebooting the WinME computer and switching to 16bit high color mode and running the 256ColorTrayTest.exe file, the test will work by displaying all its colors. So the 256 color TrayIcons problem is partially resolved in WinME in certain color depths but NOT all of them. But in WinXP and higher, the problem is completely fixed in ALL color modes.

It looks like the explorer.exe file in WinME HAS to be edited (aka. patched) to fix the trayicons problem for ALL color depths. I'll try to figure that out.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 30 July 2007 - 10:35 AM

[erpdude8]

TM0d, on Jun 29 2007, 11:32 AM, said:

I forgot about patching it, but yesterday a friend from MSFN told me that it has a familiar part. If u've patched it post it (if u haven't done it earlier).

I had been busy for the last few weeks and I am in the process of making installers for the Win95 and NT4 patches (both for the regular 95/NT4 shells and the IE active desktop shells for 95/NT4). I will send these patches to MDGx and will be available on his web site. the explorer.exe patches for the regular W95/NT4 shells are now posted at MDGx's web site and I'll be sending him the other explorer.exe patches that are for the IE Desktop Update under 95/NT4 soon.