using the hf-dl_xxx.bat files (any of them), the files downloaded don't drop the file into any of the HF* folders (with or without the wget.ini). i've tried the following: If -O WindowsXP-KB950762-x86-ENU.exe is omitted, the file goes into the HF folder as confirmation.aspx@familyid=36b14a81-5979-4e38-9ba3-ed83dfc17adf. the same occurs if using the hfpicker.xls and copying from column M. If wget.ini is in place the confirmation.aspx@familyid=36b14a81-5979-4e38-9ba3-ed83dfc17adf file is removed with the following: additionally if the '-O' switch is used, the file goes into a download retry loop which fails after a bit. It seems there may be a conflict with the '-O' and '-P' switches for wget. does anyone have any solutions other than using mimo's update list or the one bphlpt posted from http://win-x.co.cc/updates.html? i'm used to manual but thought i'd give this one a go and i'm bumping my head on this one. i'd like to see it work to download into the HFSLIP folders...