Yes I read the post. Yes, I know what the point is. And neither do I like that serious features (Windows 7 Backup, anyone?) are being systematically removed. But that doesn't mean the functionality is not there. You just need to know how to get to it. It's been true all along that 3rd party software is often better than Microsoft's own implementations (Classic Shell, anyone?). As a professional software engineer who uses my systems for highly technical and complex things I can unreservedly say that I get more out of Windows (I'm presently running Win 8.1 x64 Pro/MCE) now than I got back when DOS was still involved. Way more. Bear in mind that I've been tweaking and augmenting operating systems to get the most they can give going back since well before Windows was even Bill Gates' wet dream. I'm not even remotely talking about an "out of box" experience nor "technically challenged user" experience. At the expert level an argument that Win 9x is even remotely in the same league as an NT-based OS is just ludicrous. At the top of the list of things that I clearly remember held me back in "the bad old days": The inability to trust a computer to just run right for more than a short time and not corrupt data. The inability to process a LOT of data without some failure. Having to be distracted by things like de-corrupting disks on bootup, or even just booting up at all. Dealing with a poor quality display. Having stuff just degrade for no apparent reason. And that was with computers 1,000 times less powerful than we enjoy today. Now, even though we do thousands or even millions of times more things, I get my work done and the OS just runs for weeks, stepping out of the way and doing what I need. I find paying attention to it is FAR less necessary now than ever before once it's set up well. It's not about running the OS. It's about the system facilitating what you need to get things done. And for that - for me at least - there's none better than an adeptly configured and augmented Win 8.1 system. Windows 10 is still too new to fill those shoes, but who knows what it will become? Your mileage may vary. -Noel Okay, but look at Windows 2000. Released in 1999, this OS has basically none of the problems you're describing, yet also virtually none of the degradation issues that XP and later do. It's really such a shame that so much hardware and software simply doesn't support 2000 these days - although I've noticed that even XP support is now being dropped in many cases, and not just by the big names...