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Opinion: Your XP-to-Windows 7 upgrade path: Buy a new PC
Posted by xper on 09/16/2009 01:32 PM [ Print | 9 comment(s) ]

Microsoft's leaders really, really want you to forget about Vista and move right on to Windows 7. And who can blame them? Vista was a train wreck. No one who knows what they're doing runs Vista, not even the Microsoft faithful. Windows 7, on the other hand, is a worthwhile desktop operating system. There's only one little problem. There's no good way to get from XP to 7.


Actually, that's not a small problem at all. According to Net Applications' Market Share report, in August 2009, 71.7% of all desktops were running XP, compared to a mere 18.8% running Vista. So, that means the great majority of Windows users will have to try to migrate from XP to 7.

I use the word "migrate" deliberately instead of "update" or "upgrade" because this will be a migration. If you are among the small minority using Vista, you can upgrade to 7 without any fuss or muss, so long as the move is between equivalent versions, like Vista Home Premium and Windows 7 Home Premium, or you're jumping up, to Windows 7 Ultimate, for example.

I only wish that were the case for XP. The only way you can get from XP to Windows 7 is to do a clean install. Period. End of statement.

And, what's involved with a clean install, you ask? It means you erase every last program and file on your hard disk during the "upgrade." Ow.

You can save some of it. Microsoft's Windows Easy Transfer, which comes in Windows 7, will let you save your files and your settings. Of course, some of those settings may not work anymore with Windows 7, but that's a relatively minor pain.

The major headache is that you can't transfer your old programs and device drivers from XP to Windows 7. So, do you know where your install disk is for Quicken 2008? How about Office 2003? Or, for that matter, do you really want to download iTunes and Firefox, plus a half-dozen must-have Firefox extensions, all over again? Well, you'd better know what you have on your current XP system, and you'd better be ready to reinstall them all and reset them to just the way you like them, because that's exactly what you're going to need to do.

For an individual, that's annoying. It took me two or three hours, but I'm always installing and updating operating systems. Microsoft estimates that heavy users, people with 125GB of data and 40 applications, would need between 2 hours and 40 minutes and 5 hours and 43 minutes to upgrade their systems. A super user could take close to 20 hours But, wait, those Microsoft numbers are for Vista to Windows 7! XP to Windows 7 can only take much longer. At best, I suspect we're looking at it taking a full day for heavy users to make the migration.

Now, imagine multiplying that by a business's dozens to tens of thousands of PCs. That's not just a headache; it's the kind of major suffering that companies try to avoid whenever humanly possible.

Full story: ComputerWorld




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Thauzar
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#246589 Posted on: 09/16/2009 02:40 PM
Please people stop complaining in each article about how you have to do a clean install... Everyone who did an upgrade knows that you keep your files and programs, but those said programs must be resintalled. so what's the difference with a clean install and an upgrade if in both cases you have to reinstall all your programs? Just swap your important data to another partition, a usb key or an external hard drive, format and clean install. Of course backing up your data will take some time but I'm sure it's faster do manually do it yourself than let windows do it during the installation process. Moreover, you wont need to backup everything but only the wanted data.

Dont tell me "i wont switch to win 7 cause I cant upgrade from xp" as an excuse... doing a clean install IS the best thing to do even if the upgrade path is available.
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bule
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#246590 Posted on: 09/16/2009 03:48 PM
What's with these GBs? How naive you must be to keep your storage data on your primary partition?! Plus, it's way better to do a clean install than an upgrade.
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CharlotteTheHarlot
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#246591 Posted on: 09/17/2009 08:58 AM
"I only wish that were the case for XP. The only way you can get from XP to Windows 7 is to do a clean install. Period. End of statement ... And, what's involved with a clean install, you ask? It means you erase every last program and file on your hard disk during the "upgrade." Ow."

Is this dude for real? Anyone who knows what they are doing will disregard this person's advice completely.

The only sane course is to clean install onto a brand new Hard Disk after removing the Disk containing XP/Vista/Whatever. Place the old one on the shelf for an emergency. Jeez!

If for some reason you can only do an upgrade, well then first clone the existing XP/Vista/Whatever system to a brand new Hard Disk and then remove the old one, stick it on the shelf and upgrade the new one! There is no good reason to blast away a working installation.

-CTH-

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suryad
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#246592 Posted on: 09/17/2009 04:09 PM
This article is proof there are too many idiots on the web.
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Minky
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#246593 Posted on: 09/18/2009 03:12 PM
"No one who knows what they're doing runs Vista, not even the Microsoft faithful."

I run Vista, and I probably know more about what I'm doing than you do. Case in point:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/PCmover-Moves-XP-Vista-to-Windows-7-via-In-Place-Upgrades-120973.shtml
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ExTruckie
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#246594 Posted on: 09/21/2009 02:35 AM
I right now am dual booting XP and Win7 all my data and programs are on another partition. Have 2 30G partitions for OS, a 30G for storage and a 57G for programs all on 1 160G HD
I see no difference right now just a minor performance hit in Win7 but then I am using a 4 yr old machine.

So I must agree with suryad too many idiots
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amateur
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#246595 Posted on: 09/25/2009 04:47 AM
wow what a bunch of vain folks. I'm sure if I were to ask my dad how to do best do an upgrade or clean install, he wouldn't have a clue.
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Maleko
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#246600 Posted on: 09/30/2009 12:47 PM
Posted by amateur on 09/25/2009 03:47 AM
wow what a bunch of vain folks. I'm sure if I were to ask my dad how to do best do an upgrade or clean install, he wouldn't have a clue.


Then do it for him  ;) My dad also wouldn't have much of a clue, but I wouldn't expect him to do it. He would also get someone who knows what they are doing to do it for him, and that would be a clean install :)
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killerb255
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#246605 Posted on: 10/02/2009 05:37 PM
In the absolute worst case scenario, you can do a "double-upgrade" from XP to Vista to 7.

However, that would be asking for a lot of trouble, and you would be better off doing a clean install anyway...
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