draku Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 (edited) AMD 1090T, 8GB DDR3, SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 1TB it might seem faster but i instaled the loader at a friend with AMD x2 6400+,4GB DDR2 , SAMSUNG 500GB not spinpoint and he boots in 30-32 seconds but does not have all the crap i have in startup list After seeing how good this preloader is now i want to buy a hybrid hdd or ssd like ocz synapse cache to accelerate all my hdd not only the boot Edited November 15, 2011 by draku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwapster Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 magicanndre I would be so grateful if you would look at my xml file. I can't figure out why my boot is so slow.Hi, restoring the networkconnections take tool long:This causes a 50s delay.I use net use /persistent:no in a CMD to mount network drives when I need them. This avoids such delays. how do i get this view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 go to "Generic events" and generate the summary table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottyboy99 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Hi Magic Andre,Sorry to bother you. I think my prefetch on windows 7 ultimate x64 is doing strange things. Basically I ran your optimisation a few months back and it worked well. My boot got a bit slower over time, so a few days ago I went into windows/prefetch and deleted only the .pf files to rebuild the prefetcher. I only did it this way to avoid the lengthy 2nd part of the optimisation due to a lack of time. Anyway all seemed fine, subsequent boots were a tad quicker. That was until the 6th or 7th boot after this. It was as if something happened & prefetch was no longer working/ or corrupt. No error messages but my boot suddenly increased by over a minute. 7 or 8 boots later and still it was slow. So I ran your optimisation and it all seemed to be ok again. However, yesterday there were some windows updates which I installed and as a result the boot immediately slowed rapidly again despite constant reboots (about 8 in a row I tried). So I deleted the pf files again from prefetch folder. Instantly the boot sped right up until, yep you guessed it, the 6th or 7th boot when it slowed right down again. Very odd??? So late last night I ran your optimisation again. At first it errored as it had to wait too long for the prefetcher. I deleted the pf files again and after doing this your optimization ran through just fine. And since then (some 8 boots after running it) my boot has been okay again (about 100ms according to event viewer which is about normal/peak for my laptop).Has my deleting the .pf files caused my problems? I only deleted these and not other files in that folder. Also I wasn't emptying them from the recycle bin (until the last optimisation) so I wonder if this caused part of my problems. So at this moment in time my boot is fine but i worry as soon as I install another windows update or any other type of program the problems will come back? I am worried my deleting of the pf files in the prefetch folder has caused all my issues? Should I have deleted the whole folder including the readyboot sub folder when i did it? I kind of wish I'd never touched it now! I was under the impression deleting the files would cause Windows to rebuild it.Many thanks,Wayne Edited December 14, 2011 by Scottyboy99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Don't delete the pf files. Only run the optimization. Run a full boot trace (look at my other topic) when you got the slowdown again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottyboy99 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Thank you. Ok will do. Do you think I have messed the prefetch up by deleting the pf files? Not that I will do this again but should I of just deleted all the files on the folder and not the pf ones because old data still existed and conflicted? I find it strange that the prefetch seems to work until about the 6th or 7th boot and then something goes wrong. Hopefully the latest optimisation did the trick as its been 8 boots since and currently seems ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 don't do anything with the Prefetch folder. Leave the files as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miletos Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 MagicAndre1981, urgent question: after having completed the entire process, can I uninstall the Performance Toolkit and SDK? Will it keep all the optimizations?I'm guessing it's safe to uninstall, since it just optimizes existing services. But I just want to make sure. It's for a customer and I usually just like to remove all the maintenance software after I'm done with it, to prevent them from ruining their own computer.Anyway, I really can't thank you enough for this tutorial!! You gave me an automated (= quick & low-cost) method of seriously improving boot performance. Especially on Vista machines. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share Posted December 14, 2011 Yes, uninstal is safe, but do the 30MB used by WPT really hurt you? If yes, keep the MSI files so that you can reinstall the WPT again if needed a second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miletos Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Ok, cool. Thanks! It's not so much the space it takes up. I just want to prevent customers from running software they don't understand. A lot of people I encounter just press buttons without thinking.Bit of a background story:For instance, I install ccleaner on customer's pc's. I schedule it to run once a week silently and I remove it from the start menu. This way they won't start tinkering with the settings themselves, without knowing what they're doing. Like, one day they'll check the Cookies box and then..."ZOMG, I'm not logged into teh Fazebookz anymore and can't remember my password! It's all Miletos' fault for installing that evil ccleaner software!" Maybe I'll just remove the shortcuts for the Performance Kit from the start menu, but I'd rather just uninstall it to prevent them from ever finding it. Edited December 14, 2011 by Miletos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 on Windows 7 you can use AppLocker to block software that users should not use. And WPT requires admin rights and if the users don't have such an account they can't run the toolkit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottyboy99 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Magic AndreI will try and run a boot trace soon on my machine. Although can I ask about the layout.ini file in the prefetch folder? I did the optimization a couple of times last week. After the last optimization the layout.ini file was updated 17/12/2011 but it hasn't updated itself since. I was under the impression it updates itself every 3 days but I quickly turned the laptop on this morning and it still shows date of 17/12/2011 as last modified. Do you think something is broken here? Does the laptop need a certain amount of idle time for it to update itself?Many thanks,Wayne Edited December 21, 2011 by Scottyboy99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Dialga2 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) MagicAndre1981,Thank you for this, now my pc boots just 19 seconds , which is extremely good for a HDD. This is screenshot comparing boot times before and after,In case the above link doesn't work, I have attached a Image file with this post.My PC Configuration :Windows 7 Ultimate x86ASUS P5KPL-CMIntel Core 2 Duo E7400 @ 2.80GHz2.00 GB RAMNVIDIA GeForce 8400GS 512MBWestern Digital HDD 250 GB (System)Hitachi HDD 160 GB Edit : I don't know why the After Summary has 27 seconds, Infact my PC boots in 19-20 seconds only. Edited December 21, 2011 by 4Dialga2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicAndre1981 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) @Scottyboy99I don't know why the file is not updated. Mine was updated yesterday. But I didn't modify anything in the folder while you did this.@4Dialga2your Windows boots in 17.3s. Substract 10s (idle detection time) from the value BootDoneViaPostBoot or add the value of postBootDisturbance to bootDoneViaExplorer to see the boot time. Edited December 21, 2011 by MagicAndre1981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottyboy99 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Hi Andre,I just wondered which anti virus suite you use and/ or recommend? I currently use Microsoft security essentials which is better than mcafee but still slow at start up.Thanks,Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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