[Browncoat]

ppgrainbow, on 09 February 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

I also don't know if Pale Moon will be able to build versions of their browser after version 12 since the switch to MSVC 2010 affects all Mozilla-based apps.

They're continuing with two forks/branches unlike Mozilla.

http://www.palemoon.org/

[WildBill]

If you go to my PE Tool thread, toward the bottom is a rather long list of all of the API's that were added with the latest KB2393802 and KB2408429 patches. EncodePointer and DecodePointer are in the list, and I've tested them pretty thoroughly. The API's to watch out for are the SxS activation context API's: I've been working like crazy to add them to KB2393802-v9, but it's an enormous job. Let's hope Gecko v.13 doesn't need them.

[Browncoat]

Dumb question...
Will this affect Thunderbird or is it time
to hunt for an alternative?

[ppgrainbow]

Browncoat, on 13 February 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Dumb question...
Will this affect Thunderbird or is it time
to hunt for an alternative?

The change will effect all Mozilla-based apps, including Firefox, SeaMonkey and Thunderbird. Plus, developers are in the process of removing the now dead-support code for Windows 2000 from Gecko since MSVC 2010 is incompatible with Win2k.

[erpdude8]

ppgrainbow, on 15 February 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

Browncoat, on 13 February 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Dumb question...
Will this affect Thunderbird or is it time
to hunt for an alternative?

The change will effect all Mozilla-based apps, including Firefox, SeaMonkey and Thunderbird. Plus, developers are in the process of removing the now dead-support code for Windows 2000 from Gecko since MSVC 2010 is incompatible with Win2k.

more specifically, Thunderbird 13 and Seamonkey 2.10.x will start using MSVC 2010 code, which will officially drop win2k & pre-XPSP2 support.

[ppgrainbow]

erpdude8, on 06 April 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

ppgrainbow, on 15 February 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

Browncoat, on 13 February 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Dumb question...
Will this affect Thunderbird or is it time
to hunt for an alternative?

The change will effect all Mozilla-based apps, including Firefox, SeaMonkey and Thunderbird. Plus, developers are in the process of removing the now dead-support code for Windows 2000 from Gecko since MSVC 2010 is incompatible with Win2k.

more specifically, Thunderbird 13 and Seamonkey 2.10.x will start using MSVC 2010 code, which will officially drop win2k & pre-XPSP2 support.

Thank you for telling me. I don't even know if SeaMonkey 2.10 will be renamed SeaMonkey 3.0 due to the use of MSVC 2010 code once it hits beta. MSVC 2010 will also drop support for Windows Server 2003 RTM as well.

[erpdude8]

tomasz86, on 02 February 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

You can find WildBill's kernel at bristols updates list. Look for KB2393802. Links to BlackWingCat's kernel & MS VC++ 2010 SP1 are already mentioned in this topic.

yeah right. I don't see any VC++ 2010 SP1 downloads there...or here.

and I'm not sure if blackwingcat made the unofficial KB2565063 (MS11-025) MSVC++ 2010 SP1 security patch and/or the unofficial KB2565057 (MS11-025) MS Visual Studio 2010 SP1 security patch. The KB2565063 & KB2565057 patches were revised 8/9/2011 to fix the problems found in their respective patches which were originally released 4/12/2011.
so far, he didn't make those for win2000, yet.

ppgrainbow, on 13 April 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

Thank you for telling me. I don't even know if SeaMonkey 2.10 will be renamed SeaMonkey 3.0 due to the use of MSVC 2010 code once it hits beta. MSVC 2010 will also drop support for Windows Server 2003 RTM as well.

not happening at all, ppgrainbow. Seamonkey 2.10 is version 2.10.0 and not going to be renamed to 3.0.
Seamonkey 2.10.0 beta 1 was released about a week ago. and the next versions of Seamonkey will be 2.11 & 2.12 as noted on the MozillaWiki Releases page.

This post has been edited by erpdude8: 19 May 2012 - 09:55 AM

[tomasz86]

erpdude8, on 19 May 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

and I'm not sure if blackwingcat made the unofficial KB2565063 (MS11-025) MSVC++ 2010 SP1 security patch and/or the unofficial KB2565057 (MS11-025) MS Visual Studio 2010 SP1 security patch. The KB2565063 & KB2565057 patches were revised 8/9/2011 to fix the problems found in their respective patches which were originally released 4/12/2011.
so far, he didn't make those for win2000, yet.

All MS VC++ DLL files (including the latest ones) are included in UURollup. They originally come from this addon.

[blackwingcat]

erpdude8, on 19 May 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

yeah right. I don't see any VC++ 2010 SP1 downloads there...or here.

and I'm not sure if blackwingcat made the unofficial KB2565063 (MS11-025) MSVC++ 2010 SP1 security patch and/or the unofficial KB2565057 (MS11-025) MS Visual Studio 2010 SP1 security patch. The KB2565063 & KB2565057 patches were revised 8/9/2011 to fix the problems found in their respective patches which were originally released 4/12/2011.
so far, he didn't make those for win2000, yet.

I had already released newer VC++2010 SP1 for Windows 2000.

KB2627201(10.0.40219.363) and KB2639247(10.0.40219.369)
(KB2565057 is 10.0.40219.325)

[Yffffonz]

@BlackWingCat:

Hello.

I see on your site two different files
(KB2639247)Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package v6 (for Windows 2000)
(KB2639247)Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package v3 (for Windows 2000 Ex Kernel)

I am unsure of the difference and what is meant by "Ex Kernel". Is the v6 file to be used WITH your Kernel installed and the v3 to be used WITHOUT your Kernel installed? Or do I have that backwards?
Or am I completely off-base and it has nothing to do with having your Kernel updates installed?

I am just looking into this because it is getting close to the June 5 release and I am not that familiar with installing any of the major Kernel updates available. My experience to date has only been with using the KDW wrapper to get around the adobe Flash installer issue.

Thank you

[blackwingcat]

Hi,

The version is not kernel version but also runtime package version.
If you install later v7 kernel , plz use the package for Windows 2000 Ex Kernel version.
(It was explained on my blog)

Yffffonz, on 27 May 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

@BlackWingCat:

Hello.

I see on your site two different files
(KB2639247)Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package v6 (for Windows 2000)
(KB2639247)Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package v3 (for Windows 2000 Ex Kernel)

I am unsure of the difference and what is meant by "Ex Kernel". Is the v6 file to be used WITH your Kernel installed and the v3 to be used WITHOUT your Kernel installed? Or do I have that backwards?
Or am I completely off-base and it has nothing to do with having your Kernel updates installed?

I am just looking into this because it is getting close to the June 5 release and I am not that familiar with installing any of the major Kernel updates available. My experience to date has only been with using the KDW wrapper to get around the adobe Flash installer issue.

Thank you

[Yffffonz]

blackwingcat:

thanks for getting back to me, I think I understand the process now.

If installing your KB2639247 WITHOUT first installing the kernel package then use Package v6 (for Windows 2000)
If installing your KB2639247 AFTER ALSO installing your kernel package then use Package v3 (for Windows 2000 Ex Kernel)

I realize it was explained on your blog, but it is difficult to understand sometimes with the translation to english.

You mention "If you install later v7 kernel". Do you mean if installing kernel version v7 or later? I have been able to find kernel v5b, v10b, v13i, and v15r available in english versions. Is there one that you would recommend installing to correct the firefox v13 issue of this thread?

Thanks again for your work and help.

[tomasz86]

I created a topic on mozillaZine forums about Win2k & Firefox:

http://forums.mozill...p?f=7&t=2482475

[Yffffonz]

thanks for the write up tomasz86

[blackwingcat]

Yffffonz, on 28 May 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

blackwingcat:

thanks for getting back to me, I think I understand the process now.

If installing your KB2639247 WITHOUT first installing the kernel package then use Package v6 (for Windows 2000)
If installing your KB2639247 AFTER ALSO installing your kernel package then use Package v3 (for Windows 2000 Ex Kernel)

I realize it was explained on your blog, but it is difficult to understand sometimes with the translation to english.

You mention "If you install later v7 kernel". Do you mean if installing kernel version v7 or later? I have been able to find kernel v5b, v10b, v13i, and v15r available in english versions. Is there one that you would recommend installing to correct the firefox v13 issue of this thread?

Thanks again for your work and help.

Hi ,

That's right.
v3 and v6 are only installer Package version.

This post has been edited by blackwingcat: 05 June 2012 - 03:40 AM

[tomasz86]

Yffffonz, on 04 June 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

thanks for the write up tomasz86

The topic is now sticky in the Firefox Builds section

[ppgrainbow]

Well...folks, the final version of Firefox 13 is out now!: http://releases.mozi....0/win32/en-US/

[halohalo]

Firefox 13 works with kernel extend project v15. But I need to disable hardware acceleration in Fx.

Peacekeeper V2 Results

[tomasz86]

Could anyone check if there's a problem in Firefox after resuming Win2k from Standby? In my case the UI is frozen and the browser must be restarted to start working again.

[blackwingcat]

It seems there is a problem on VGA Driver.
Which version do you use ?

tomasz86, on 15 July 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Could anyone check if there's a problem in Firefox after resuming Win2k from Standby? In my case the UI is frozen and the browser must be restarted to start working again.