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I have been running win2k on various (old) systems for a while. I'm considering building an ITX desktop and am wondering which chip(chipsets) you would all recommend starting out with.

I'm highly considering an AMD FM2 board or intel 1155. Anyone have experience on a newer board?


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I'd suggest AMD at least for one reason which is K10stat. Neither AMD's Cool'n'Quiet nor Intel's SpeedStep work in Windows 2000 but you can use K10stat for power management of AMD CPUs. In case of the Intel processor it's going to run at full speed all the time.

My board is based on FM1 and AMD A55 chipset. Before buying a motherboard just make sure that everything will work in Windows 2000. I'm thinking specifically about the USB3.0 chip and the LAN card.

Edited by tomasz86, 19 June 2013 - 12:56 AM.

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Thanks tomasz. I have used K10stat before on my netbook and it runs great. I'll shoot for an AMD FM2 board and see where I get with it.

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Asrock FM2A75M-ITX R2.0 procured
Will give any feedback I have when I have it :whistle:

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Let's hope everything will work without too much hassle :sneaky: I'd suggest to use a fully updated Windows 2000 source for installation.

Edited by tomasz86, 25 June 2013 - 12:26 AM.

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I think k10stat doesn't work with Family 15h CPUs.

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I've used Brazostweaker before. Is that the same codebase as k10stat or completely separate?

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Don't know Brazos, for 15h CPUs you can use AMD PSCheck for Windows, and there's a new Linux utility similar to k10ctl.

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Thank you Phenomic. Will do. I have used k10ctl before as well.
Processor came today.. still waiting on the board. 4GB memory in hand. Should have pretty quick results as a I have a hard drive with win2k setup and dos ready to go.

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installation went flawlessly.
I cannot get any drivers to work for video however.. I've got everything else up except video. I've tried the stock AMD XP driver as well as Blackwingcat's driver (my card isnt listed so I forced some other ATI driver down its throat) but nothing is working yet... Will keep on trying...

Any help appreciated. A6-6400K HD8000 series

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Well I'm stumped. I can install BWC drivers with no exclamation mark as 7000 series and even the catalyst 8470 driver with no exclamation mark but the display doesnt get any better. Still 640x480. I even hacked up with win7 driver on a whim and it detected the 8470D as the correct driver but it wont load after install (exclamation mark there)

Kind of at a loss :(

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What updates have you installed in your system? Is UURollup or BWC kernel installed?
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Yep BWC latest kernel and your latest uurollup daily (from June)

I made sure I got the latest versions of both.

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Well, first of all, you should never install both of them :w00t: because BWC kernel is already included in UURollup... :ph34r: but at the end it shouldn't really matter in this particular case since you've just installed same files and registry settings twice.

I'd suggest you send a PM directly to blackwingcat and ask him whether he could modify the latest official AMD graphics drivers (which support your specific graphics card model) to make them work in Windows 2000.

Edit: Did you enable PAE by any chance?

Edited by tomasz86, 30 June 2013 - 12:06 PM.

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Yes on PAE. Actually I've tried enabling and disabling it to see what's up. The VESA/VBE universal SVGA driver is working ;p
Should I try turning off PAE and reloading the drivers?

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The AMD and Intel graphics drivers won't work with PAE enabled :( The NVIDIA drivers do work.
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Since I have an nVidia GPU in my build now, I think I should get more lucky on Windows 2000 with PAE. If i was to install the UUR 11 daily or weekly, would the drivers work out of the box?

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So I disabled PAE and reinstalled both BWC and the XP drivers but still have not got it working yet. I've got to be doing something wrong unless this new APU simply isnt supported by the XP driver yet... Going to be kind of a waste if I have to use a seperate video card when I bought the APU to utilize the built in video ;p

oh well I'll keep trying

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So I disabled PAE and reinstalled both BWC and the XP drivers but still have not got it working yet. I've got to be doing something wrong unless this new APU simply isnt supported by the XP driver yet... Going to be kind of a waste if I have to use a seperate video card when I bought the APU to utilize the built in video ;p

oh well I'll keep trying


You'll find that you'll have much better luck with an nVidia Graphics Processing unit. Sorry to say.

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I could not get the video working on A8 APU either.

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The AMD graphics drivers for XP for won't work. They need to be modified (the actual driver files, not just the INF file). The only person capable of doing that is blackwingcat.

Since I have an nVidia GPU in my build now, I think I should get more lucky on Windows 2000 with PAE. If i was to install the UUR 11 daily or weekly, would the drivers work out of the box?

No :( In my experience, the latest drivers working "out of the box" are v270.61 available at my website. In case of the newer drivers I believe that you need to modify the DLL files too. You should try to use the v300.xx drivers from BWC.

Edited by tomasz86, 01 July 2013 - 10:23 AM.

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I sent BWC a few messages over the last couple days. I've been stalking him since I know he's one of the only people out there who can fix a driver (outside of AMD of course)
I saw the latest beta drives from AMD didnt support XP anymore. If they phase out XP support as MS is doing what will we do when we need a new driver and hacking up an INF from Xp isnt available anymore... Looks like we may be stuck with legacy support only for a little while longer...

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No :( In my experience, the latest drivers working "out of the box" are v270.61 available at my website. In case of the newer drivers I believe that you need to modify the DLL files too. You should try to use the v300.xx drivers from BWC.


Oh, OK. These drivers can work without UUR too?

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