[Agorima]

tomasz86, on 15 July 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

The IDE driver should be the same in both cases unless you installed different IDE drivers in the old system. Does your old system use M$ default IDE drivers or 3rd party ones?

If I remember correctly, the old system use the default IDE drivers.

[tomasz86]

Are you 100% sure? It's important because in the past 3rd party IDE drivers provided by chipset manufacturers were pretty common.

[Agorima]

tomasz86, on 15 July 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

Are you 100% sure? It's important because in the past 3rd party IDE drivers provided by chipset manufacturers were pretty common.

I don't have the computer turned on, so I'm not 100% sure. But I'm sure that I've done nothing special to install windows 2000.

This post has been edited by Agorima: 15 July 2012 - 12:27 PM

[Agorima]

tomasz86, on 15 July 2012 - 11:41 AM, said:

The IDE driver should be the same in both cases unless you installed different IDE drivers in the old system. Does your old system use M$ default IDE drivers or 3rd party ones?

I have checked now the old system. Under Device Manager, it shows three IDE controllers
"Primary Channel IDE"
"Secondary Channel IDE"
"Controller IDE Via Bus Master"

The files are, viewing the details of the last controller, "atapi.sys", "pciide.sys", "pciidex.sys".

What I must do?

This post has been edited by Agorima: 17 July 2012 - 08:00 AM

[submix8c]

Agorima, on 17 July 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

"Controller IDE Via Bus Master"
What I must do?

This is the old system/Computer? It has Via IDE Drivers in it. You need Intel IDE Drivers.

[Agorima]

submix8c, on 17 July 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

Agorima, on 17 July 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

"Controller IDE Via Bus Master"
What I must do?

This is the old system/Computer? It has Via IDE Drivers in it. You need Intel IDE Drivers.

Yes. It's an AMD Athlon XP 1700+, with 192 Mb of Ram and 6 Gb of space on HDD.
I think that the generic IDE driver should works fine.

This post has been edited by Agorima: 17 July 2012 - 10:34 AM

[submix8c]

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I didn't install Windows 2000 on my second partition. I've just copied and pasted the files of the system already installed on the old computer

You will have to get that Via Driver out of the "image". It is what's clobbering you! I'm not sure if you can boot to Safe Mode (can't remember - too busy to check) and Uninstall it then Reboot and let it find the Intel Driver. The change between one Chipset and another won't work. You may even have a "Machine" (basic Chipset Drivers) problem. The only cure is to In-Place Upgrade.

The Via Drivers are NOT Default! They are 3d Party (as you were told). They do NOT come (AFAIKR) with unmodified Win2k.

(feel free to correct me, tomasz86)

[tomasz86]

Yes, the VIA drivers are definitely unwanted when you move the HDD... but isn't it the M$ default IDE driver which is needed, not the one from Intel?

[Agorima]

submix8c, on 17 July 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

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I didn't install Windows 2000 on my second partition. I've just copied and pasted the files of the system already installed on the old computer

You will have to get that Via Driver out of the "image". It is what's clobbering you! I'm not sure if you can boot to Safe Mode (can't remember - too busy to check) and Uninstall it then Reboot and let it find the Intel Driver. The change between one Chipset and another won't work. You may even have a "Machine" (basic Chipset Drivers) problem. The only cure is to In-Place Upgrade.

The Via Drivers are NOT Default! They are 3d Party (as you were told). They do NOT come (AFAIKR) with unmodified Win2k.

(feel free to correct me, tomasz86)

Is the In-Place Upgrade "install the system from CD-Rom"? If so, I can not do it. I can not solve the problem where it begins. If I try to install Win 2K through the external DVD drive, I'll get the 0x0000007b error.

tomasz86, on 17 July 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

Yes, the VIA drivers are definitely unwanted when you move the HDD... but isn't it the M$ default IDE driver which is needed, not the one from Intel?

Although I have selected the "PCI Ide controller" I see always the blue screen. Moreover, I cannot copy "default", "software", "sam", "security" and "system" from the old computer.
I think that I'll extract my HDD and install Win 2K from the recent computer, that mounts an Intel Pentium processor.

This post has been edited by Agorima: 18 July 2012 - 04:50 AM

[cdob]

Agorima, on 17 July 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

I have checked now the old system. Under Device Manager, it shows three IDE controllers
"Primary Channel IDE"
"Secondary Channel IDE"
"Controller IDE Via Bus Master"

The files are, viewing the details of the last controller, "atapi.sys", "pciide.sys", "pciidex.sys".

PCIIDE is the generic IDE driver already.

However you have to set generic HardwareID PCI\CC_0101 too.

http://support.micro...kb/314082/en-us

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\primary_ide_channel]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\secondary_ide_channel]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\*pnp0600]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\gendisk]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="disk"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#cc_0101]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"

[Agorima]

cdob, on 18 July 2012 - 04:39 AM, said:

Agorima, on 17 July 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

I have checked now the old system. Under Device Manager, it shows three IDE controllers
"Primary Channel IDE"
"Secondary Channel IDE"
"Controller IDE Via Bus Master"

The files are, viewing the details of the last controller, "atapi.sys", "pciide.sys", "pciidex.sys".

PCIIDE is the generic IDE driver already.

However you have to set generic HardwareID PCI\CC_0101 too.

http://support.micro...kb/314082/en-us

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\primary_ide_channel]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\secondary_ide_channel]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\*pnp0600]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="atapi"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\gendisk]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="disk"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\CriticalDeviceDatabase\pci#cc_0101]
"ClassGUID"="{4D36E96A-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}"
"Service"="pciide"

Is there a way to move "default", "sam", "security" and "system" from the old computer?

[cdob]

Agorima, on 18 July 2012 - 04:44 AM, said:

Is there a way to move "default", "sam", "security" and "system" from the old computer?

Yes, example adds \pci#cc_0101 settings at old system.

Boot a PE, copy and paste files.

Or restore whole 2000, as done previously.

Agorima, on 30 June 2012 - 04:44 AM, said:

I've tried to install my old OS, Windows 2000 Professional SP4, from my external DVD drive, but everytime I receive the 0x0000007B error (0xF6863848, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) and the setup cannot continue.

When do you receive a BSOD?
Which screens do you get previously?
Does BSOD refers to USB booting?

[Agorima]

cdob, on 18 July 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

When do you receive a BSOD?
Which screens do you get previously?
Does BSOD refers to USB booting?

I receive this BSOD after loading the drivers, and before the "Windows 2000 setup" screen.
Yes, my external DVD drive use a USB port. It' s compatible with Win 2K SP4, since I buyed it 5 years ago.
If I set the BIOS to IDE mode, the setup of Windows XP SP3 works fine. The setup of Windows 2000 have that error.

This post has been edited by Agorima: 18 July 2012 - 07:17 AM

[tomasz86]

Could you just try to uninstall the VIA drivers from the old computer, reboot (Windows should install default drivers then), and after that try to swap the HDD?

[Agorima]

tomasz86, on 18 July 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

Could you just try to uninstall the VIA drivers from the old computer, reboot (Windows should install default drivers then), and after that try to swap the HDD?

In which way I can swap the HDD? The old computer is a desktop, not a notebook.

This post has been edited by Agorima: 18 July 2012 - 08:12 AM

[tomasz86]

Now I've seen that you copied files instead of swapping HDD...

I think the best way would be to take the netbook HDD out, connect it to the desktop, install Win2k there under IDE mode using Windows' default IDE drivers and then put it back into the netbook.

[Agorima]

tomasz86, on 18 July 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

Now I've seen that you copied files instead of swapping HDD...

Nevermind

tomasz86, on 18 July 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

I think the best way would be to take the netbook HDD out, connect it to the desktop, install Win2k there under IDE mode using Windows' default IDE drivers and then put it back into the netbook.

I think it's not a bad solution.

[submix8c]

HUH???? Have you been trying to Install From a Bootable External USB????

1 - you're not providing clear, concise information - we've had to "drag" it out of you
2 - you are not following instructions TO THE LETTER!

[Agorima]

submix8c, on 18 July 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

HUH???? Have you been trying to Install From a Bootable External USB????

1 - you're not providing clear, concise information - we've had to "drag" it out of you
2 - you are not following instructions TO THE LETTER!

Here I am again. Let me explain everything once for all, since my defect is what you said on the point 1.

1. I have an Acer Aspire One 532h, with the Intel NM10 chipset and ICH7R SATA Controller (Intel® 82801GR).
2. I have also an external DVD drive, which use a USB port. It' s compatible with Win 2K SP4, since I buyed it 5 years ago.
3. Everytime I try to install Windows 2000 from the external DVD drive i get the 0x0000007B error (0xF6863848, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000), therefore an INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE, before the "Windows 2000 Professional Setup" screen. The same error appears even when i switch from AHCI to IDE mode and when I use a Usb key.
4. The same error doesn't appear on the setup Windows XP SP3, both from USB key and from external DVD drive, when I use the IDE mode from Bios. Now I think that XP have an updated Mshdc.inf and Mshdc.sys that Windows 2000 don't have.
5. I have tried to use the official drivers of the controller of the HDD, that supports Win 2000. I had no luck.
6. I have followed the instructions TO THE LETTER to enable the LBA. Same as before.
7. I have integrated all the updates, following again the instructions to the letter. Same as before.
8. The Iso updated worked fine on VirtualBox using the Chipset PIIX3 (Not ICH9!) under the System> Motherboard and the ICH6 emulation under Storage.

So tomasz86 said to me to take the HDD out of the computer, that is a netbook, connect it to an another computer and install Win2k on it there. And then I can put it back.

9. I have found a computer quite recent (about 2010) to install Windows 2000, that use an Intel Pentium processor, but, since I have so many data, and before doing that big step, I have copied a Windows 2000 installation from an old computer that mounts an AMD Athlon XP 1700+, I have putted it on the partition D: of my hard drive and then I've edited the boot.ini, but I could not copy the files "default", "software", "sam", "security" and "system" from the old computer, so I used the default files (I don't remember where I found them)
The error of INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE appeared again, but with a different code (0xF681B84C, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)
10. The old computer, under Device Manager, shows three IDE controllers:
"Primary Channel IDE"
"Secondary Channel IDE"
"Controller IDE Via Bus Master"
The files are, viewing the details of the last controller, "atapi.sys", "pciide.sys", "pciidex.sys".

11. I didn't uninstalled the third controller that I said just before. I have selected the "PCI Ide controller" although I have seen that I cannot copy that five files which contain the System Registry.
12. I didn't set yet the generic HardwareID PCI\CC_0101. I'm waiting the night, or the early morning, to use the monitor of the desktop pc, since my brother needs it.
13. I hope that adding \pci#cc_0101 settings at old system can help me to move the five untouchable files. Otherwise, I'll follow the advice of tomasz86.

I hope it's all clear for everybody.

This post has been edited by Agorima: 18 July 2012 - 02:14 PM

[submix8c]

Busy right now, but one point...

Mixing points - 9, 10 and 11
You can't copy the HIVE (the five you speak of) files from a Running System. Exactly how did you copy it? From Running Win2000->USB->D-Drive?

If you have a Running XP and the CD for it, try using WinBuilder or BartPE and make it extremely small-sized (only include what you need) and boot to it, THEN copy the Old Win2000 with the VIA drivers. I still foresee the Chipset Drivers causing problems when you try to boot to it. I'm doubting that will work (going to the ICH9, unless you go with Default). You'll still have to put the "Enable" REG entry into the appropriate HIVE (the old system).
-or-
Hook that HDD directly up to the Target PC (the one with the D-Drive) THEN copy.

edit - ARG!!!! Won't work that way! Copying the Old Win2000 from (old) C-Drive to (new) D-Drive still has a LOAD of Registry entries point to (old) "C:\"!!!!! That won't fly at all!!!

Thinking.... be back later.