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Unofficial SP 5.2 for Microsoft Windows 2000 in preparation

#441 User is offline   My2GirlsDad 

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:29 PM

View Posttomasz86, on 13 March 2013 - 01:40 AM, said:

I've just uploaded two new daily versions - one of UURollup-v11 and one of UURollup-v10e. I removed a file called "normaliz.dll" from both of them. It was the culprit which prevented new versions of Skype (>5.9) from sending text messages.


tomasaz,

I been trying to test your new versions of UURollups. I continue to have an issue with v10 when slipstreaming with HFSLIP. The issue is with WMP9 and the error below.

I only have the following in HF nothing in the other folders (HFCABS, HFSVCPACK, HFSVCPACK_SW1, and HFSVCPACK_SW2):

MPSetup.exe
w2ksp51.exe
Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU.exe
Windows2000-UURollup-v10e-d20130312-x86-ENU.exe

I can hit ok and setup finishes and WMP9 is installed. I run unattended installs so would like it error free.

I have no issues with v11 as that installs fine. It only happens with v10.

Any thoughts? Appreciate your help.

M2GD

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:14 PM

I've had this too, I know whatever version is slipstreamed into his November 2012 package, it has this issue.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:26 PM

@bluebolt As Tommy has already said, I added "unofficial" to distinguish between official M$ releases and others. It doesn't really matter whether there are new modified files or whether it's just a compilation of official M$ files - it's still an unofficial package after all. In one word - Update Rollup 2 = Unofficial Update Rollup 2.


@blackwingcat I've already seen it on your blog before... and I'm actually very happy that you started to play around with HFSLIP as it's now possible to integrate your kernel32.dll directly into Windows source (and you've also fixed videoprt.sys, haven't you?) :thumbup


@OldSchool38 I'm glad that you've finally managed to get your system work. I wouldn't be surprised if the current builds of UURollup-v11 were actually more stable than UURollup-v10x. The reason is that UURollup-v11 is constantly updated and fixed while UURollup-v10x still uses the same old version of WildBill's kernel.


@My2GirlsDad,Tommy This particular issue is a strange one. I remember that you had already told me about it before, right? The problem is that I can't reproduce it in my environment :blink:

This post has been edited by tomasz86: 17 March 2013 - 11:34 PM


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 04:52 AM

View PostMy2GirlsDad, on 17 March 2013 - 09:29 PM, said:

View Posttomasz86, on 13 March 2013 - 01:40 AM, said:

I've just uploaded two new daily versions - one of UURollup-v11 and one of UURollup-v10e. I removed a file called "normaliz.dll" from both of them. It was the culprit which prevented new versions of Skype (>5.9) from sending text messages.


tomasaz,

I been trying to test your new versions of UURollups. I continue to have an issue with v10 when slipstreaming with HFSLIP. The issue is with WMP9 and the error below.

I only have the following in HF nothing in the other folders (HFCABS, HFSVCPACK, HFSVCPACK_SW1, and HFSVCPACK_SW2):

MPSetup.exe
w2ksp51.exe
Windows2000-UpdateRollup2-x86-ENU.exe
Windows2000-UURollup-v10e-d20130312-x86-ENU.exe

I can hit ok and setup finishes and WMP9 is installed. I run unattended installs so would like it error free.

I have no issues with v11 as that installs fine. It only happens with v10.

Any thoughts? Appreciate your help.

M2GD


It is Shell Space Function Problem on Windows 2000.
We must indicate resource name directly.

Ex)
@foobar.dll,-123341 -> "this is test"


View Posttomasz86, on 17 March 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

@blackwingcat I've already seen it on your blog before... and I'm actually very happy that you started to play around with HFSLIP as it's now possible to integrate your kernel32.dll directly into Windows source (and you've also fixed videoprt.sys, haven't you?) :thumbup


videoprt.sys was fixed since Kernel Core v13 :)

This post has been edited by blackwingcat: 18 March 2013 - 04:55 AM


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:52 PM

Something related to Internet Explorer is in Japanese, specifically when it asks you about others being able to see what you're searching for.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:55 PM

View PostTommy, on 18 March 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

Something related to Internet Explorer is in Japanese, specifically when it asks you about others being able to see what you're searching for.

It's because of JPN urlmon.dll.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:19 PM

I get that unreadable IE screen, too, from UUR Mar12. Also, Windows Update says I need Update Rollup 1. I notice there’s a new Daily up now. I will try it.

Regarding the .net frameworks, 1-4 install fine, but then Windows Update says I need 2.0 Service Pack 1. This has been the case in every version after 1210260023.

I don’t let Windows Update run any of these updates. Is that right?

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

You must not use Windows Update when using any unofficial updates.

That's why UURollup completely disables Automatic Updates. Windows Update should be used only in systems with no unofficial updates installed.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:43 PM

View Posttomasz86, on 19 March 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

That's why UURollup completely disables Automatic Updates. Windows Update should be used only in systems with no unofficial updates installed.


The only sole exception to this is if you use Windows Defender. Automatic updates on Windows Defender require the latest version of Windows Update to be installed but then you can go through the program, and not the Windows Update site.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:58 PM

View Postbluebolt, on 11 March 2013 - 08:16 PM, said:

First, tomasz86, thank you for your work on the Windows 2000 archive, and for this thread. I also want to express my appreciation for the contributions of others here, all of which has improved my knowledge of the W2K operating system and given me a better sense of its workings. You have helped make my Windows 2000 project seem, well, slightly less impossible. Thank you again.

My goal was to set up Windows 2000 Professional on modern hardware, specifically an Intel Sandy Bridge processor and a Z-77 motherboard, and I am now running such an installation. There are no unknown devices in Device Manager (with the caveat that I am using an X600 video card rather than the integrated graphics).

The problem I’m having concerns the lack of USB function during the installation process. Because of this, I have to use a PS/2 keyboard or mouse (and I do mean keyboard or mouse, because my motherboard has only one PS/2 connector). This means I plug in the keyboard during the text part of the install, then shut down the system via the keyboard, then change the keyboard out for the PS/2 mouse, then start it back up. From there, I am able to get into Device Manager to let Windows install the USB drivers (which are apparently there on the computer the whole time in c:\winnt\inf\oem10.inf) so that I can use a USB keyboard and mouse. Then everything’s fine.

Is there a way I can have USB function from the get-go? Because sometimes the system won’t recognize the PS/2 mouse during installation, and when that happens, I’m stuck. This has limited my ability to conduct experiments with others’ W2K installation files, for example the populated HFSLIP folders you make available through Dropbox.

Today I tested a new renesas USB PCI card, with an eye toward integrating its drivers into my W2K installation disc with nLite. But first I’m trying to simply install the card in the existing Windows enviroment, to see if it even works with W2K. So far, I have not been able to make the card work.

If someone has any ideas how to at least make the generic built-in USB drivers work automatically during the initial installation, I would really appreciate your sharing those ideas with me.


I have a very similar system (Ivy Bridge) which when Win2k installs, it does not detect the USB 2 Ports! So, If I use the oem10.inf, will the USB work?

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:30 AM

The oem*.inf have different numbers in each Windows installation as different drivers are installed depending on your hardware. It means that the "oem10.inf" from your system will be different than the one used by bluebolt.


@bluebolt Could you tell us what exactly is your oem10.inf? You can just copy and paste its content here using the [ spoiler ] tag (as it may be quite long).

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:45 AM

View Posttomasz86, on 20 March 2013 - 12:30 AM, said:

The oem*.inf have different numbers in each Windows installation as different drivers are installed depending on your hardware. It means that the "oem10.inf" from your system will be different than the one used by bluebolt.


@bluebolt Could you tell us what exactly is your oem10.inf? You can just copy and paste its content here using the [ spoiler ] tag (as it may be quite long).


I've solved the problem by simply letting Win2k detect the drivers using Device Manager.
And one more thing, I've downloaded the latest daily UURollup for the HD Graphics Driver, because it needs blackwingcat's kernel.
It runs great, I got an initial BSOD when the HD graphics installed via the installer, but I used Windows' INF install method and it works great!
But I have to use QupZilla because the latest firefox turns all black when I start it up.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:47 AM

After I run my W2K/IE6/WMP9/All Official Updates OS CD with integrated Intel Chipset Device Software (INF Update Utility) Dated 11/6/2012, there is no USB function. When I go into Device Manager (using the keyboard, thanks tomasz86), the USB Host Controller is set to its “currently installed, and recommended driver,” which is the “Intel 7 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller” located at c:\winnt\inf\oem5.inf. I then select the unrecommended choice instead, which is the “Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller” located at c:\winnt\inf\usb.inf, and I have USB function. Here’s what I find inside c:\winnt\inf\oem5.inf:

Spoiler


As an experiment, I uninstalled the “USB 2.0 Root Hub” entries; predictably, I then lose USB function. However, when I reboot, Windows does its “searching, found new hardware, generic USB hub” routine, and I have USB function again, Windows having automatically detected the workable drivers. I don’t understand why it doesn’t do that in the first place.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 01:30 PM

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But I have to use QupZilla because the latest firefox turns all black when I start it up.


Have you disabled the "Use hardware acceleration when possible" options in the ADVANCED>GENERAL tab in Firefox?

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:55 PM

View PostYffffonz, on 20 March 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

@AnX

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But I have to use QupZilla because the latest firefox turns all black when I start it up.


Have you disabled the "Use hardware acceleration when possible" options in the ADVANCED>GENERAL tab in Firefox?


I know that would work, but I need hardware acceleration whilst using Flash. This is a problem when using forceware drivers. I'm using Firefox 10, which works great with Adblock Plus, and will install Chrome soon.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

Firefox hardware acceleration and Flash hardware acceleration are separate things. You can have hardware acceleration enabled in Flash and disabled in the browser itself. The only browser where hardware acceleration seems to work fine in Windows 2000 is Chromium (and other browsers based on it) but there are several other issues with it.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

View Posttomasz86, on 20 March 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Firefox hardware acceleration and Flash hardware acceleration are separate things. You can have hardware acceleration enabled in Flash and disabled in the browser itself. The only browser where hardware acceleration seems to work fine in Windows 2000 is Chromium (and other browsers based on it) but there are several other issues with it.


OK. How can I disable Firefox's acceleration leaving other stuff running with it?

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:10 AM

View Postbluebolt, on 20 March 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

After I run my W2K/IE6/WMP9/All Official Updates OS CD with integrated Intel Chipset Device Software (INF Update Utility) Dated 11/6/2012, there is no USB function. When I go into Device Manager (using the keyboard, thanks tomasz86), the USB Host Controller is set to its “currently installed, and recommended driver,” which is the “Intel 7 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller” located at c:\winnt\inf\oem5.inf. I then select the unrecommended choice instead, which is the “Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller” located at c:\winnt\inf\usb.inf, and I have USB function. Here’s what I find inside c:\winnt\inf\oem5.inf:

Spoiler


As an experiment, I uninstalled the “USB 2.0 Root Hub” entries; predictably, I then lose USB function. However, when I reboot, Windows does its “searching, found new hardware, generic USB hub” routine, and I have USB function again, Windows having automatically detected the workable drivers. I don’t understand why it doesn’t do that in the first place.


I'm thinking Intel hardwired their 6 Series/7 Series chipsets to not enable automatic installation of USB on Win2k. The reason being probably because of SP4's driver not being compatible with the chipset. They want to give the user a chance to install the updated usb drivers, and then, enable USB support the hard way. Pretty stupid, if you ask me.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 05:17 PM

View PostAnX, on 20 March 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

View PostYffffonz, on 20 March 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

@AnX

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But I have to use QupZilla because the latest firefox turns all black when I start it up.


Have you disabled the "Use hardware acceleration when possible" options in the ADVANCED>GENERAL tab in Firefox?


I know that would work, but I need hardware acceleration whilst using Flash. This is a problem when using forceware drivers. I'm using Firefox 10, which works great with Adblock Plus, and will install Chrome soon.


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OK. How can I disable Firefox's acceleration leaving other stuff running with it?


Uncheck the option "Use hardware acceleration when possible" in Firefox in the OPTIONS> ADVANCED>GENERAL tab.
I have an older version installed right now, but I think it is in the same spot in the the later versions.. tomas86 or anybody can confirm.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 06:46 PM

View PostAnX, on 21 March 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

I'm thinking Intel hardwired their 6 Series/7 Series chipsets to not enable automatic installation of USB on Win2k. The reason being probably because of SP4's driver not being compatible with the chipset. They want to give the user a chance to install the updated usb drivers, and then, enable USB support the hard way. Pretty stupid, if you ask me.

I'm 99% sure that they don't test their new hardware with Windows 2000 at all ;)

If it's not a problem a problem, could you (AnX or bluenote) try to install the system with only USP5.1 integrated this time (with no other updates or drivers) and see what happens?


View PostYffffonz, on 21 March 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Uncheck the option "Use hardware acceleration when possible" in Firefox in the OPTIONS> ADVANCED>GENERAL tab.
I have an older version installed right now, but I think it is in the same spot in the the later versions.. tomas86 or anybody can confirm.

I can confirm :w00t: The easiest way to disable hardware acceleration once a newer version of Firefox has been already installed and is unusable is to boot the system into VGA Mode, open Firefox and disable it then.

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